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April 18, 2007
Snap out of it!!
Someone makes something up and someone else believes it:
"Ismail Ax" is a well known phrase in the Muslim world. The Muslims believe that the [Old Testament] is wrong in saying that Abraham was supposed to kill Isaac with a knife, rather they believe he was supposed to kill Ishmael (Ismail) with an Axe. They also believe that Abraham was supposed to go out and attack idols with an axe, and some also attribute the phrase to meaning that Ishmael was supposed to kill Isaac, the father of all Western culture, with an axe.
Cho was a South Korean immigrant to the US, but it seems undeniable that his killing spree, at least in part, was motivated by some sort of belief in Islam.
Now that's a great steaming pile of happy horseshit, and if that's not bad enough, late last nite I got an email that said "'Emily Hilscher' is an anagram of 'Ceyl Her Ishmil'. Kill her Ismail?"
Forcryinoutloud! Come on people. Get a grip.
Posted by LindaSoG at April 18, 2007 07:35 AM
Comments
Paraphrasing several people,
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar,
you can fool all of the people some of the time,
and you can eliminate ignorance with education,
but you can't fix stupid.
Posted by: eros total at April 18, 2007 02:09 PM
This German pro_Israel, pro-American site
argue that Cho Ismail Seung-Hui WAS a sand monkey...
http://www.politicallyincorrect.de/2007/04/der_islamkonvertit_cho_ismail_1.html#more
It's in German, tough...
Along these lines:
He was a moslem, he converted to islam and was active in the Indonesian moslem scene.
Cho Ismail Seung-Hui carried that name at least since Aug. 2006 - the month in which the first shooting occured at Virginia Tech, which remained unclarified by the police.
Last August, a moslem woman added Cho Ismail Seung-Hui to her photobook of friends at flickr.com - flickr.com . . .
The woman is a believing moslem - her nickname, "Eldarossell" is transcribed phonologically from Indonesian "El dar os sell" - which translates to "House of peace" - the synonym for islam amongst moslems.
After this fact had been discovered by American bloggers the photo of Cho Ismail Seung-Hui and its caption ( flickr.com . . . ) were removed by the moslema, but German blogger Gudrun got it cached in time ( and sites like waybackmachine.com might also work to show it ):
The caption read:
"He's a South Korean. Ismail is not his real name. He use it because his name is very hard to pronounce, especially for Indonesian people. His real name is Cho Seung Hoo ....... or is it Jo Sung Ho? Eldarossell, fickr, uploaded on August 1, 2006"
So the "lonesome gunman" seems to have had so many moslem friends from Indonesia that he chose a new moslem name that his friends could easily pronounce. He could have chosen another name - e.g. change the Cho into Joe. What's more, Ismail's name is that of the forefather of all moslems - an unbeliever carrying it would have been regarded as an insult by his moslem peers rather than as a sign of friendship.
So it seems obvious that he converted a long time ago to Islam, and his moslem friends knew about that. Because there ain't no institutionalized moslem church(es), unlike in Christianity ( Catholics, Baptists, Methodists etc. ), there are no official records about his conversion. To convert to islam, it is sufficient to repeat the shahada ( islamic confession of faith ) three times in front of two moslem witnesses. The sole, but common sign of conversion is that the converts add an islamic second forename to their old name, as he has done, too.
By the way: He spent a long time of his short life in Detroit - known as THE islamic center of the USA.
His complaints about the decadence and sinful costums and behavior on the campus fit right into the picture of him as a believing moslem, as well.
That all combined is too much to be a coincidence.
PS: This story has been published by the leading German political blog, "Politically Incorrect" - a conservative, pro-American, pro-Israel website - here's the link to the entry - www.politicallyincorrect.de . . .
Posted by: CaptnMorgan at April 18, 2007 04:15 PM
I'm sorry Captn, but the more that comes out, the more it appears that Cho was simply psychotic.
Posted by: LindaSoG at April 18, 2007 07:23 PM
It sure fit the Modus Operandi of the infernal cult.
There is not a month that pass without a similar
occurrence somewhere else in the world...it
happen DAILY in Iraq and Israel get them often enough.
There have been far worse, like in Beslan,
where children where raped and murdered by muslims
or Pakistan, where churches full of children
where machine gunned for Allah...
And the Media at their service...any mention
of the Islamism of the shooter in Minnesota,
and Gamil Gharbi, who shot 28 people at
Montréal University...the leftist press
went as far as give him a false name
to hide the fact he was muslim,
they gave him the name of his mother
Marc Lépine, as if there was ever in the
universe a muslim wearing his mother's name!!!
That one was a nice pretext to spend
2 billion dollars to disarm all the Canadians...
Posted by: CaptnMorgan at April 18, 2007 07:55 PM
I agree, it did fit the MO, but then, any act of murderous rage will that MO.
I still firmly believe that the "troubled youth" in OK who blew himself up outside of the college football game last year was a work accident.
Posted by: LindaSoG at April 18, 2007 08:15 PM
Jihading is very hazardous...50% never
make it to the target and go up before
reaching...any electro-magnetic pulse
(cell phone call, car engine starting,
distant thunderclap, refrigerator cycling), a lot can trigger a dynamite cap...
Posted by: CaptnMorgan at April 18, 2007 09:38 PM
did you read what I send you?
Posted by: Avi at April 19, 2007 06:48 AM
Yes Avi, I did, and thank you.
Posted by: LindaSoG at April 19, 2007 07:33 AM